Blondie, you point out a very significant change in WT policy that's evolved as the organization acquired assets over the years. In the old days, they used to be they used to provoke legal confrontations and encourage JWs to surreptitiously enter private apartment houses, etc. in order to assert their 1st amendment rights. Those were the days of Hayden Covington and Bill Jackson in the legal dept. Now much more wealthy, they're much more risk-averse.
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I Have the Pwer to Run them Away
by nomoreguilt innow, having been on the other side of the fence, so to speak, and having had hoa's run me out of their subdivision, the shoe is on the other foot.
as i said in my come back post yesterday, i have become very active in my local community.
i am the president of our home owner's association.
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Audio: Generation teaching as explained at the San Diego District Convention 05-30-2010
by kurtbethel inthis is an excerpt from the final talk of the day, "remain in the secret place of the most high".
i looked around as this explanation was being offered up, and the looks on the faces of people there was mostly disinterest.
this is a very convoluted explanation that reminds me of someone running a con and trying to cobble together an explanation to deal with legitimate objections to their false claims.. http://www.sendspace.com/file/dodp4w.
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I know I began a thread on this, but I wonder just how many 40- and 50-something JWs realize that this "new light" condemns them to a pre-Armageddeon death?
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Day 2 of the Convention is over ... what's missing?
by wannabefree inday number 2 is done.. there was an audio drama, sure, it adds some excitement, hey, its different.. final talk "stay close to jehovah, as jeremiah did" ended with the release of the book ... god's word for us through jeremiah ... not a verse by verse consideration of prophecy, rather, what we can learn from jeremiah's life as a prophet, considers information from jeremiah and lamentations.
(of course informed readers of this site knew of this release already.).
noticibly missing ... jesus christ ... to me it was painfully obvious.. one talk i think was numbing our mind to accept the generation bomb tomorrow.. i couldn't help but realize that throughout the convention so far, the vast majority of scriptural references are from old testament (yes, it was hard not to say hebrew scriptures, so i just did).. i didn't realize it so much in the past, but it seems like jehovah's witnesses are trying to accomplish what the nation of israel couldn't, follow laws.
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Egocentric Neo-Judaizers
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"This Generation" New Light:" A Death Sentence For 40-50-Something JWs
by Room 215 inone of the mesages emanating from the "new light"rhetoric is that it might be prudent to prepare to die before armageddon.
better to forget about the assurances that "you will never grow old, much less die" in this old system; maybe it's time to enact a macabre plan b and latch onto a cemetary plot and prepaid funerals....
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One of the mesages emanating from the "new Light"rhetoric is that it might be prudent to prepare to die before Armageddon. Better to forget about the assurances that "you will never grow old, much less die" in this old system; maybe it's time to enact a macabre Plan B and latch onto a cemetary plot and prepaid funerals...
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How did you dispose of all those excess magazines?
by chicken little inwe were always told not to throw away literature, so just what did we do with it all?
i know that i would sneak it into the bin for recycling quite regularly.
my parents kept all the magazines for over 20 years in ritz boxes in a cupboard, they all went yellow and smelt wierd.
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I tied the magazines neatly in bundles and put them out on the curb for recycling.... lots and lots of them
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In Sicily (Italy) a JW kills his mother and himself
by behemot insource: http://www.ilgiornalediragusa.it/brevi/19093--omicidio-suicidio-la-famiglia-attendebr-i-corpi-dei-congiunti-per-i-funerali.html.
translation:.
ragusa - nunziata pluchino, the woman killed in the night between friday and saturday, paid with her life the attempt to prevent the suicide of her son daniele arestia, 37.
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Truly horrendous...... I'm at a loss ...mi manca il fiato
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GB closing down and selling Central American Branches to be serviced out of Mexican Branch
by cattails inthe gb is closing down and selling all central american branches.
the congregations are to be serviced out of the mexican branch.. they end the letter by saying that aren't the congregations in the.
central american territory to be expecting great rejoicing since they'll.
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There's that lovely word "simplification" creepign back into their vocabulary
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Are they deliberately trying to get rid of the "Old TImers"? (re "generation")
by hamsterbait inthe vast majority have been sucked into the witchtower babble and trash cult over the last 25 years.. this constant rehashing and contradicting of the "generation " teaching is bound to drive significant numbers of the pre 1985 -"ish" witlesses away from the kingdumb hells, much as "1925" drove away vast numbers who might yet undermine "jug" rutherfords efforts to secure his power.. they will then be able to make major revisions of what to us older ones seem like core doctrines, which will be lapped up like iced cream by those who only have the perspective of the 21 century litterature.. this is too obviously deliberate.
its not like some tiny side comment:.
when the gibbering buddy wants some embarrassing thing to go away, blondie has pointed out many examples, they stop talking about it.. with this change they are rubbing peoples noses in it, slapping them round the head so they dont miss it.. and who are "gasping" at the co talks?
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The "older ones" may be, as you say, "deeply invested" but it seems to me that with each passing year, they're taking some of their chips off the table, tuning out the latest rhetoric, treating the latest radical directives with "benign neglect" and using the KH much as nominal churchgoers do, as a social insitution.....
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Witness movie "Heritage"
by exwhyzee indoes anyone remember seeing the witness movie called "heritage" ?
it was made in the early 60's and they used to show it once a year at the kh when i was a kid.
(with guilty minds, we were secretly glad to see the projector set up in the middle section of the hall because it meant we didn't have to sit through another long boring talk.. even as a little kid i could see the one sided propaganda basicaly showing how empty "worldly" peoples lives were compared to ours and if you were a witness your family life would be idyllic like on "leave it to beaver".
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I remember it very well; it was directed by Timothy Galfas, filmed in Bergen County, NJ, mostly in and around Hackensack, with a lot of my school friends in it. I would love to see it, as I'm sure from this vantage point it would look mostly comically dated..... "Happy Days" WT style!
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Stealing Watchtower's Thunder
by belbab instealing watchtowers thunder.
jw freak posted this years convention program and the release of a new book about jeremiah.
i am starting this thread to focus only on the release of the book about jeremiah.
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I betcha it's nothing more than a warmed-over rehash of a series of WT articles on Jeremiah done in 1979-1980; there's nobody there even remotely capabale of approaching Freddie's unique brand of fantasmagoric exegesis. That's why the recent convention releases have been so simple-minded and avoided any semblance of spiritual depth: song books "God the creator," Bible atlas, on behavior manipulation, and so on. They're running out of spirtual gas, if ever they once had it.